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What belief do you hold that isn't popular on the internet?
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Spirit Metaphor	Sep 3 2012, 01:19 AM Post #91
Posts: 130 Group: Member Member #8,196 Joined: August 28, 2012 Favourite Manga Berserk	@Ninjajp247 It would be wise to treat what I have to say with a little less condescension if you're unfamiliar with epistemology. I also recommend avoiding quotes from scientists for insights into philosophy, most of them are fundamentally retarded when it comes to the bigger picture. Don't get me wrong, they're still brilliant at what they do. Philosophy is like anything else, you can't become good at it without practice. Appealing to authority is also a fallacy of argumentation, just pointing that out. It's fine to quote sound arguments, but not opinions. Even scientists like Hawking and Einstein have fallen prey to thinking that they could be taken seriously as philosophers without thoroughly studying any subjects outside maths and physics. Philosophy is a difficult discipline to grasp, it requires a lot of thought and cannot be mastered simply by being smart (+1 unpopular belief). Although It's true that there is a hell of a lot of bad philosophy going on in universities today, post-modernism in particular. It's mind-blowing how much people can say without actually saying anything - terribly misguiding - I'm vehemently against this relativistic nonsense, especially the denial of objective ethics. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 3 2012, 03:40 AM.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 3 2012, 03:10 AM Post #92
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	im just answering your question, you are the only one who seems to think that epistemology isnt known, not to mention you didnt mention what book about it i was supposed to read. To be condescending would mean that i dont know what im taling about BECAUSE i havent read it, which is something you are harping on. Didnt i make my beliefs clear? didnt i quote someone i know that DISLIKES epistemology? i think so. I dont believe it holds any answers, YOu do, so there is no need to call me condescending when all i have done is express my opinion on the subject. No, from what i have read on it, its not my cup of tea. doesnt make me ignorant on the subject or science for doing so, nor make me arrogant, no need to project. Especially since this seemed to be something you were using to make me seem like i had no clue what it was or even meant, despite making my point on that same subject clear before you even asked that question, which i thought was more than a little presumptuous. No, i dont believe science for everyday practicalities can be coupled with philosophy. Not even bruce lee could pull that off, and the tao of jeet kune do almost had me convinced. philosophy deals with the state of mind, science deals with the physical. But having this healthy debate is why philosophy exists, science doesnt leave room for probables, or should haves. Not even maybes. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Sep 3 2012, 03:13 AM.



Spirit Metaphor	Sep 3 2012, 03:24 AM Post #93
Posts: 130 Group: Member Member #8,196 Joined: August 28, 2012 Favourite Manga Berserk	Be careful presenting your opinions as truth without a solid foundation of knowledge regarding the subject matter, or possessing such a strong viewpoint in general. I've made the same mistake in the past. The unpopularity of belief systems relative to each other can be derived from logical and/or empirical ignorance between parties, with the exception of aesthetics. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 3 2012, 03:35 AM.



* Crashbreaka	Sep 3 2012, 07:45 AM Post #94
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	No-one can truly know anything. Short and sweet.



Spirit Metaphor	Sep 3 2012, 07:53 AM Post #95
Posts: 130 Group: Member Member #8,196 Joined: August 28, 2012 Favourite Manga Berserk	crashbreaka Sep 3 2012, 07:45 AM No-one can truly know anything. Short and sweet. Ok, so that means that statement itself is uncertain which cancels out its truth value entirely. There's also the paradox: I am certain that nothing is certain. The human mind is capable of error in relation to sensual evidence and logic, but that does not mean there is no such thing as truth. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 3 2012, 08:30 AM.



* Yu Narukami	Sep 3 2012, 11:03 AM Post #96
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Its technically true though. A car doesn't move at, say, 30mph. It moves, and we attribute the speed at which it is moving to a certaijn value. We impose our logic on many things, who's to say we"re right?



Spirit Metaphor	Sep 3 2012, 11:04 AM Post #97
Posts: 130 Group: Member Member #8,196 Joined: August 28, 2012 Favourite Manga Berserk	It cannot be true because the proposition self-detonates. It is the stable and consistent behavior of matter which makes understanding the universe possible. We know that an apple cannot suddenly morph into a pelican. Another example - we also know that a brick will never float away inside a gravity well. The values we assign to reality are indeed arbitrary, but looking at your example, Juggernaut, it's irrefutable that the spacial position of a moving car changes over time. If the position of the car is not changing then it is not moving. There are no grey areas in that respect. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 3 2012, 11:29 AM.



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 3 2012, 05:55 PM Post #98
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	but you are relating physics to meta physics, and meta physics is based on a philosophy of seen unseen relating how fast a car goes using mathematics as variables in science helps Us give a name to how fast the car is going, because logic insists that a name given to something brings it into existence. So in truth? its the reason why everything can be related through math. It was our first real language of understanding. is our math good enough to truly understand the universe as a whole? no, why? because we continue to give labels to things we dont fully understand. At best without actual results? science is a best guess scenario, and for some reason gets approval from the people who have deemed it their responsibility as people who understand the language of variables and probabilities to interpret for the rest of us. Because even doctors at best take an educated guess, and biology is one of the most proficient sciences we possess. This is a good debate spirit, dont get me wrong, just because i dont agree. dont know about you, but its a little refreshing to be able to talk to anyone about this stuff. use it or lose it.



Spirit Metaphor	Sep 4 2012, 01:41 AM Post #99
Posts: 130 Group: Member Member #8,196 Joined: August 28, 2012 Favourite Manga Berserk	Would somebody call 1 + 1 = 2 a best guess scenario? Truth is logical - it does not matter how we express it - and logic is derived from reality, not the mind. This is unlike the realm of true forms Plato describes which falsely implies memory is possible without matter. Edited by Spirit Metaphor, Sep 4 2012, 01:45 AM.



Cal	Sep 4 2012, 02:15 AM Post #100
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	I think this topic served it's purpose a few pages back. Make a new thread guys :P



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 4 2012, 02:53 AM Post #101
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	It's basically just an argument about nothing now.



* -Zero-	Sep 4 2012, 02:57 AM Post #102
Black Knight Posts: 8,697 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,874 Joined: November 5, 2006 Favourite Anime Code Geass, Death Note, Dragonball/Z	This topic is basically not what was intended for anymore as stated already. People seem to be getting questioned for what they post even if their intention wasn't to debate about it just to express "believes" and that could make other people uncomfortable to post their unusual believes, if you wish to debate philosophy make a thread for it, therefore: Edited by -Zero-, Sep 4 2012, 04:01 AM.
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